This complaint covers all categories – airlines, airports, and personnel. The incident happened at Phoenix. If you have a choice, do not go there. Especially, do not change flights there in the middle of a summer day!
We arrived from Seattle on Alaska Air. We were supposed to catch an American Airlines flight onward to Dallas, and then to our destination.
Alaska Air arrived at the United terminal. Our first priority on arrival was to look for location and departure time for our connecting flight. We saw that all the monitors with departure information were turned off, and only the arrival screens working.
(Note to Phoenix Airport Staff: Arrival information at this location is not very helpful. The people who come to meet arriving flights are far away, outside the security area. The passengers in the security area are either leaving the airport, or trying to get on another plane. The passengers with connecting flights want to know where to board that flight, and when it departs.)
Our next thought was, no problem, we will find the information in the American Airlines terminal. Any other airport I can think of has signs posted to give directions to the different terminals. We looked, but there is none of that all the way from the arrival area to the front door of the United terminal in Phoenix (and were were definitely looking for it!).
We were able to find out from a janitor that American Airlines is in a different building. To go from the United terminal to the American terminal, you have to go outside the security area, outside the building, to a center island in the street and find a bus that will take you to the other terminal. On this day it is probably over 100 degrees. My wife and I are in our late 60’s. I am fairly fit and can take some heat. My wife has bad knees and reacts poorly to heat. We reached the center island and walked about 50 yards to the nearest bus. Here we got another nasty surprise. The buses are dedicated – a given bus will travel to only one terminal. We would have had to walk over 100 yards in the opposite direction to catch the dedicated bus for the American Airlines terminal. This driver, however, made an exception for us and gave us a ride to American Airlines.
Another nasty surprise at American Airlines – they had cancelled our connecting flight. I had confirmed this flight about 24 hours prior, but had no warning from American Airlines. They did arrange another flight for us – on Continental, and informed us that we should collect our baggage and take it with us to Continental Airlines terminal. (This later turned out to be a good thing, as one of the airport staff was found to be systematically stealing large amounts of luggage).
So it’s out in the sun again, this time hauling all our luggage to find another bus to take us to the Continental terminal (I think it was in the same building as United).
Continental would not accept that we had already paid for our checked luggage, so we had to pay again (and more about this later).
So we are booked on a flight and we go to the screening area. All the people we had met up to this point had been nice, or at least polite. Here is where we met the gratuitous meanness.
The TSA screening process here is in two phases. In the first phase, they check your identification and ticket. In the second phase, they check your luggage and person for contraband.
The TSA personnel in the first phase were polite and helpful, almost friendly. There were a lot of people being processed through phase one. All these people were lining up at the entrance to the room where phase two would take place, waiting at the rope barrier. Initially there were no TSA personnel in the room where phase two would take place. One of the TSA people from phase one even came back and looked into the area to “see what is holding things up.” After several minutes, all the phase two personnel filed into their area and took their places, but did nothing. Would-be passengers and TSA personnel looked at one another for several minutes (possibly as many as five) until one of them finally stepped forward and opened the rope barrier.
The contraband check begins with the passenger placing bags, shoes, pocket items, etc., into plastic trays. I don’t know if there is some fixed rule as to where the various items are to be stowed, or if it was all in the mind of the woman overseeing this operation. Whichever, she obviously had requirements which the passengers would have to learn by trail and error or by mind reading. The procedure went as follows: pile your stuff in the trays, walk away, get called back, hear one requirement, rearrange your stuff, walk away, get called back, hear second requirement… I was able to complete my lab rat test in two tries. The woman behind me was not so lucky. When I looked back later, she was in tears and screaming at the “tray master” (who never lost her smirk, and was obviously deriving pleasure from the process).
I felt that it was American Airlines’ fault that we had to pay double to check our luggage through to the destination. After all, they canceled the flight and caused the problem. On arriving home, I wrote them a nice letter and explained the situation and asked them for a refund. They refused to pay it, and offered a time-limited discount on some future flight with them (which we are unlikely to use, as we do not travel all that much).
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I lost interest when you deplaned the Alaskan Airlines flight. There's five minutes of my life that I'l never get back.
Couldn't agree with you more. At some point I wanted to slit my wrists but decided to skip to the comments and read something more interesting.
I loved the part about the TSA tray master!
You couldn't walk 100 yards because of the heat? Are you one of those that uses a mobility scooter because you are too fat and out of shape? i know of plenty of 60+ yr olds who RUN MILES EVERY DAY and have no problem walking. If you cannot get around without a handicapped sticker or mobility scooter, stay home, kill your self.
Wow, Madachode, are you having a bad morning? Some of us are wondering how this became a personal issue for you. FYI, it is hot where I live, and humid, too. I work out most days on a stair climber, so 100 yards is no problem for me. Other people don't have the good fortune to have the mobility to even work out, but they have the right to travel, too. That said, there is no reason why (the real issue here) people should have to wander around an airport, dragging all their luggage, and asking janitors and waitresses (yes, that's what we did) where to find an airline or a bus. While Phoenix was spending the money on their very nice building there, they could have spent a little more for signs and working monitors.
Madachode's diatribe with the "kill yourself" close is the Mississippi equivalent of "thank you and kind regards".
Welcome back Madachode.
Not buying it. Been to Mississippi several times, and the people there are OK, and reasonable. Nothing said in the narrative would justify Madachode's comments (which are highly inaccurate, anyway), even if he/she is, in fact, the "Tray Master" person. And if Madachode wanted to apologize, he/she should do so him/her self, not let someone else step up.
been to the phoenix airport plenty of times, a retard can find their way around it with no problem
you forgot the kill yourself part :)…. okay thatchetty?
Wondering if the person was at Sky Harbor — you DO NOT have to exit the buildings to go between terminals
Wow, some really unnecessary comments being posted here. Telling the guy to stay home and kill himself, real classy.
I think this story is a snapshot of America today. No one is held accountable for anything anymore. The old man and his wife couldn't walk far enough and TSA was not competent enough.
Personal responsibility is what this story could have used and what Americans need more of, not handouts, no bailouts, just good old fashioned hard work and self reliance.
hita Phoenix liðinu gamall karl og kona ekki Wal langt, Rútur var besta flutning fyrir þá og ef þeir eins og tónlist hópur Journey, þeir gera líða betur.
You tried to "smooth things over" but some of your remarks are a little off base. The old man and his wife did a lot of walking that day and didn't ask anyone for any favors, except for information. The "story" was a report, not fiction, and wasn't meant for entertainment. Phoenix Airport Management needs to do a lot of work. They built some nice buildings and now they need to work on making people's travel easier, instead of more difficult. The "story" about the awful behavior of the TSA people there needs no further discussion. Many other people have reported on this website about problems with airlines cancelling flights, so this should not need any more discussion. And, this incident happened many months ago, and the facts about the airport employee systematically stealing large amounts of luggage was reported in the national newspapers.
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but still they try to see
why something good can hurt so bad
Caught on a one way street
the taste of bittersweet
Love will survive somehow, some way
(chorus)
One love feeds the fire
One heart burns desire
I wonder who's crying now
Two hearts born to run
Who'll be the lonely one
I wonder who's crying now
So many stormy nights
So many wrongs or rights
Neither could change their headstrong ways
And in a lover's rage
they tore another page
The fighting is worth the love they save
(chorus)
Only so many tears you can cry
Till the heartache is over
And now you can say your love
Will never die
Whoa ooh oh ooh oh
Hoo oh hoo oh
I could not agree more Steve, love is our greatest strength and as long as you have love in your heart then you can do anything. Here's a little tune to join the club.
There comes a time
when you face the toughest of fights
searching for a sign
lost in the darkest of nights
the wind blows so cold
(you're) standing alone
before the battle's begun
but deep in your soul
the future unfolds
as bright as the rays of the sun
You've got to believe
in the power of love CHORUS
you've got to believe
in the power of love
Blazing emotions
there's a light, that flows from your heart
it's a chain reaction
and nothing will keep us apart
Stand by my side
there's nothing to hide
together, we'll fight to the end
take hold of my hand
and you'll understand
what it truly means to be friends
CHORUS
it gives meaning to each moment
it's what our hearts are all made of
You've got to believe, in the power of love
w00t, that's my song from the English dub 😀