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		<title>By: Kafka</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2010/01/overzealous-homeland-security/#comment-7320</link>
		<dc:creator>Kafka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shame (which there is more than enough to go around) is not necessarily in the extensive searching of our senior citizens but rather in the complacent ignorance of those who seem to think security begins in the terminal. 
 
It does not. I wonder how many people will continue to accept the current security methodology once you&#039;re asked to disrobe prior to entering secure areas and/or subjected to MRI type scanning to view the contents of your stomach and or anal cavity to ensure nothing has been hidden there. 
 
Good security always has and will continue to be a product of a blend of tactics and techniques (some overt and some covert) which work to keep the &#039;bad guys&#039; off balace and therefore confused and incapable of planning anything dangerous. 
 
If you wish to ride unfettered and unconcerned...take a train.  Take note of  the difference between the levels of security even though the stakes are just as high...Why is that? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shame (which there is more than enough to go around) is not necessarily in the extensive searching of our senior citizens but rather in the complacent ignorance of those who seem to think security begins in the terminal.</p>
<p>It does not. I wonder how many people will continue to accept the current security methodology once you&#039;re asked to disrobe prior to entering secure areas and/or subjected to MRI type scanning to view the contents of your stomach and or anal cavity to ensure nothing has been hidden there.</p>
<p>Good security always has and will continue to be a product of a blend of tactics and techniques (some overt and some covert) which work to keep the &#039;bad guys&#039; off balace and therefore confused and incapable of planning anything dangerous.</p>
<p>If you wish to ride unfettered and unconcerned&#8230;take a train.  Take note of  the difference between the levels of security even though the stakes are just as high&#8230;Why is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2010/01/overzealous-homeland-security/#comment-7317</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The TSA were doing their job.  Unfortunately, this is the world we now live in.  If they make exceptions for those over 70...what about those over 60...what about those with handicaps...those with wheelchairs...those with canes...those with limps....if everyone that sets off the metal detector says they had surgery, should they be allowed to go through without further inspection?   
 
Sad thing is...we are all being punished because of the actions of a few.   
 
In a way, the terrorists have won some victory...because they have upset our world...and, the way we go about life.  And, evenmoreso as our freedoms and dignity are stripped away because of the necessary evil of tighter security. 
 
I&#039;m sorry this happened to you and your husband.  But, you are not alone...many innocents suffer because of the actions of the few. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TSA were doing their job.  Unfortunately, this is the world we now live in.  If they make exceptions for those over 70&#8230;what about those over 60&#8230;what about those with handicaps&#8230;those with wheelchairs&#8230;those with canes&#8230;those with limps&#8230;.if everyone that sets off the metal detector says they had surgery, should they be allowed to go through without further inspection?  </p>
<p>Sad thing is&#8230;we are all being punished because of the actions of a few.  </p>
<p>In a way, the terrorists have won some victory&#8230;because they have upset our world&#8230;and, the way we go about life.  And, evenmoreso as our freedoms and dignity are stripped away because of the necessary evil of tighter security.</p>
<p>I&#039;m sorry this happened to you and your husband.  But, you are not alone&#8230;many innocents suffer because of the actions of the few.</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2010/01/overzealous-homeland-security/#comment-7291</link>
		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stories like these always tick me off - it&#039;s not that I think older or elderly people shouldn&#039;t have to deal with security.  However, I do think that security personnel wastes a lot of time putting elderly people through this sort of thing, yet somehow manage to miss the guy with the dynamite in his pants, or the guy who manages to wander through the &quot;secure&quot; area of the airport without anybody stopping him (see any of this weekend&#039;s news reports, re: Newark airport). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stories like these always tick me off &#8211; it&#039;s not that I think older or elderly people shouldn&#039;t have to deal with security.  However, I do think that security personnel wastes a lot of time putting elderly people through this sort of thing, yet somehow manage to miss the guy with the dynamite in his pants, or the guy who manages to wander through the &quot;secure&quot; area of the airport without anybody stopping him (see any of this weekend&#039;s news reports, re: Newark airport).</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2010/01/overzealous-homeland-security/#comment-7263</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 12:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post DSD. As I mentioned in my previous comment, my mother-in-law who was in her early 90s was extensively searched which I found to be infuriating. With that being said though, terrorists try to find the weak point. If little old ladies are ignored, then eventually some terrorist will load a bomb on one. 
 
What needs to be employed is some common sense which is what the Israelis do. Among a number of other techniques, they employ both ethnic and behavioral profiling. Of course, the ethnic profiling led to a lawsuit because it was considered to be racist (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2008/03/19/israeli_airport_security_challenged/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Israeli airport security challenged)&lt;/a&gt;. Well guess what - there hasn&#039;t been a successful attack on an Israeli airplane in decades. 
 
Scrutinize everyone including little old ladies and kids, but include ethnic profiling as a part of an overall strategy. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post DSD. As I mentioned in my previous comment, my mother-in-law who was in her early 90s was extensively searched which I found to be infuriating. With that being said though, terrorists try to find the weak point. If little old ladies are ignored, then eventually some terrorist will load a bomb on one.</p>
<p>What needs to be employed is some common sense which is what the Israelis do. Among a number of other techniques, they employ both ethnic and behavioral profiling. Of course, the ethnic profiling led to a lawsuit because it was considered to be racist (<a href="http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2008/03/19/israeli_airport_security_challenged/" rel="nofollow">Israeli airport security challenged)</a>. Well guess what &#8211; there hasn&#039;t been a successful attack on an Israeli airplane in decades.</p>
<p>Scrutinize everyone including little old ladies and kids, but include ethnic profiling as a part of an overall strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: DSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the folks who are alluding to the fact that the TSA security screening is a joke.  Instead of focusing on those who really could be a threat they pull folks who are OBVIOUSLY no threat and subject them to extra security searches all in the name of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.  PC will be the ultimate down fall of this country, because we will be more focused on appearances than real security.  My personal favorite story of the TSA searches was a 80 - 90 year old woman who beat the TSA screener with her cane when she was pulled over for additional screening.  She was beating him while yelling at him about the ludicrousness of searching her and not the Arabic man who was in line behind her.  It took 3 other officers to pull her off the first guy.  Most of the folks that I have met, who are of the same ethnicity as those who are perpitrating these acts of terrorism, have no real issue with being looked at with a little extra dilligence.  They reallize its not actually personal, that its just a case of looking like the real threat.   
In fairness to the screeners that the OP ran into, there really was an issue and as a result I can definitely see why they were singled out.  Their name did not match the boarding passes.  But instead of making a national case out of it, the first screener saw the reality of the situation and did NOT make them go back to square one, which in some cases could have make the person miss their flight.  He let them through and they had some extra screening.  I don&#039;t see a problem with this.  Its better than the additional security yahoo&#039;s who were working on Dec. 29 when my mother flew back home after spending Christmas with me.  4 days after the failed Christmas Day bomb, and there are Homeland security personnel all over the place.  All of them standing around in circles of three or four BSing about their plans for New Years (yes I could over hear the conversations).  Just brilliant work, their supposed to be LOOKING for suspicious activity and instead they are talking about their party plans.   
 
ps.  I want to meet the guy who can kill a person and take down an airplane with a pair of cuticle scissors. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the folks who are alluding to the fact that the TSA security screening is a joke.  Instead of focusing on those who really could be a threat they pull folks who are OBVIOUSLY no threat and subject them to extra security searches all in the name of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.  PC will be the ultimate down fall of this country, because we will be more focused on appearances than real security.  My personal favorite story of the TSA searches was a 80 &#8211; 90 year old woman who beat the TSA screener with her cane when she was pulled over for additional screening.  She was beating him while yelling at him about the ludicrousness of searching her and not the Arabic man who was in line behind her.  It took 3 other officers to pull her off the first guy.  Most of the folks that I have met, who are of the same ethnicity as those who are perpitrating these acts of terrorism, have no real issue with being looked at with a little extra dilligence.  They reallize its not actually personal, that its just a case of looking like the real threat.  </p>
<p>In fairness to the screeners that the OP ran into, there really was an issue and as a result I can definitely see why they were singled out.  Their name did not match the boarding passes.  But instead of making a national case out of it, the first screener saw the reality of the situation and did NOT make them go back to square one, which in some cases could have make the person miss their flight.  He let them through and they had some extra screening.  I don&#039;t see a problem with this.  Its better than the additional security yahoo&#039;s who were working on Dec. 29 when my mother flew back home after spending Christmas with me.  4 days after the failed Christmas Day bomb, and there are Homeland security personnel all over the place.  All of them standing around in circles of three or four BSing about their plans for New Years (yes I could over hear the conversations).  Just brilliant work, their supposed to be LOOKING for suspicious activity and instead they are talking about their party plans.  </p>
<p>ps.  I want to meet the guy who can kill a person and take down an airplane with a pair of cuticle scissors.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2010/01/overzealous-homeland-security/#comment-7249</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For God&#039;s sake, these people are over 70. Back off.  
 
Sad to say, it&#039;ll only get worse, and too many people are willing to put up with this crap because they&#039;ve been frightened shitless into thinking the end of the great American way of life is close at hand. I mean, look at how ludicrous things are getting now. And this is only after a FAILED attack, after some bumbling fool set his underwear on fire. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For God&#039;s sake, these people are over 70. Back off. </p>
<p>Sad to say, it&#039;ll only get worse, and too many people are willing to put up with this crap because they&#039;ve been frightened shitless into thinking the end of the great American way of life is close at hand. I mean, look at how ludicrous things are getting now. And this is only after a FAILED attack, after some bumbling fool set his underwear on fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Big</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2010/01/overzealous-homeland-security/#comment-7243</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Big</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the name of political correctness and not subject the perps to racial profiling - normal joes are treated poorly by these dimwits - it really is pathetic. 
 
Give trailer trash a badge and minimal training and they think they are John Rambo ... &quot;respect my authoritee&quot; - bite me! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the name of political correctness and not subject the perps to racial profiling &#8211; normal joes are treated poorly by these dimwits &#8211; it really is pathetic.</p>
<p>Give trailer trash a badge and minimal training and they think they are John Rambo &#8230; &quot;respect my authoritee&quot; &#8211; bite me!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2010/01/overzealous-homeland-security/#comment-7238</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 01:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DHS has a difficult job to do. No doubt that we would have had a disaster by now if it wasn&#039;t for them. With that being said, my 90-something-year-old mother-in-law was treated by them in Vegas as though she was a terrorist several years ago. Do your job folks, but do it respectively for gods sake. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DHS has a difficult job to do. No doubt that we would have had a disaster by now if it wasn&#039;t for them. With that being said, my 90-something-year-old mother-in-law was treated by them in Vegas as though she was a terrorist several years ago. Do your job folks, but do it respectively for gods sake.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Spooner</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2010/01/overzealous-homeland-security/#comment-7237</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Spooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 01:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The writers are in their 70&#039;s for God&#039;s sake! How much of a threat can they possibly be to anybody?? The whole story reeks of a lack of respect and courtesy towards them. One can only hope that the people here who have made adverse comments have grandparents who are treated better that these people were. Then again, they probably treat their own families like crap. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The writers are in their 70&#039;s for God&#039;s sake! How much of a threat can they possibly be to anybody?? The whole story reeks of a lack of respect and courtesy towards them. One can only hope that the people here who have made adverse comments have grandparents who are treated better that these people were. Then again, they probably treat their own families like crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Ingenthrol</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2010/01/overzealous-homeland-security/#comment-7236</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Ingenthrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you mean. Some security people are out of hand, while still not getting the job done. 
A perfect example is the incompetent security people in Helena, Mt. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean. Some security people are out of hand, while still not getting the job done.</p>
<p>A perfect example is the incompetent security people in Helena, Mt.</p>
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