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		<title>By: Kiddy</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2010/01/man-claims-overhead-bin-baggage-rights/#comment-11710</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only say that I agree. :-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only say that I agree. <img src='http://www.flightsfromhell.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Zei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for an airline. This is probably a red alert to all of you that I will try to defend airlines and policies, but I feel that we can all do with more information on the subject of overhead bin spaces. 
 
Our aircraft can hold up to about 170 people or thereabouts. Configuration is, three people on each side of the aisle. Overhead bins extend about three rows, give or take. So if you think about it, 9 people should be sharing one overhead bin. But those bins can really fit only up to 5 bags (if those bags fit in the bag sizers most airlines have, and are properly positioned). So if every single person brought a carry on bag, even if those bags are the proper size and are placed correctly, there would be a serious shortage of bin space. 
 
Sometimes your bag is just not gonna fit, even if everyone followed the rules.  
 
As for airlines enforcing the rules -- we do. TSA demands that we do, and has set up fines for noncompliance. I have personally carried the sizer down to the aircraft door and made passengers stick their bags in. But of course people get upset that we make them check bags that don&#039;t fit, and we always hear &quot;But it fit the last time.&quot; Or, &quot;TSA let me through with it&quot; or &quot;I don&#039;t want to lose my bag&quot;.  
 
Now, if you get on last and your bag just doesn&#039;t fit -- then sorry. That&#039;s the risk you take if you board late. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for an airline. This is probably a red alert to all of you that I will try to defend airlines and policies, but I feel that we can all do with more information on the subject of overhead bin spaces.</p>
<p>Our aircraft can hold up to about 170 people or thereabouts. Configuration is, three people on each side of the aisle. Overhead bins extend about three rows, give or take. So if you think about it, 9 people should be sharing one overhead bin. But those bins can really fit only up to 5 bags (if those bags fit in the bag sizers most airlines have, and are properly positioned). So if every single person brought a carry on bag, even if those bags are the proper size and are placed correctly, there would be a serious shortage of bin space.</p>
<p>Sometimes your bag is just not gonna fit, even if everyone followed the rules. </p>
<p>As for airlines enforcing the rules &#8212; we do. TSA demands that we do, and has set up fines for noncompliance. I have personally carried the sizer down to the aircraft door and made passengers stick their bags in. But of course people get upset that we make them check bags that don&#039;t fit, and we always hear &quot;But it fit the last time.&quot; Or, &quot;TSA let me through with it&quot; or &quot;I don&#039;t want to lose my bag&quot;. </p>
<p>Now, if you get on last and your bag just doesn&#039;t fit &#8212; then sorry. That&#039;s the risk you take if you board late.</p>
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		<title>By: Bdawg</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2010/01/man-claims-overhead-bin-baggage-rights/#comment-8057</link>
		<dc:creator>Bdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, Jim.  Take a pill.  I am not saying that I am &quot;owed&quot; bin space but it would be nice if people would realize that they are not the only people on the plane and therefore maybe you shouldn&#039;t necessarily do &quot;as you darn well please&quot; and could be a little more courteous about the use of overhead bin space.  Thanks for being a jerk, though. 
 
If my bag fits under the seat, I put it there even if it is somewhat uncomfortable for me and I have to put my feet on it.  Also, I think we can all agree that there are many, many reasons why people do not check bags that has nothing to do with selfishness or cheapness.  Perhaps if bags didn&#039;t get lost, items were not stolen from bags, bags were not ripped or destroyed, we didn&#039;t have to wait 45 minutes at baggage claim and the airlines actually cared about our things, people would be more likely to check.   
 
I do agree with all posters that it would be easier if the airline enforced the limits on bag size and number of bags. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, Jim.  Take a pill.  I am not saying that I am &quot;owed&quot; bin space but it would be nice if people would realize that they are not the only people on the plane and therefore maybe you shouldn&#039;t necessarily do &quot;as you darn well please&quot; and could be a little more courteous about the use of overhead bin space.  Thanks for being a jerk, though.</p>
<p>If my bag fits under the seat, I put it there even if it is somewhat uncomfortable for me and I have to put my feet on it.  Also, I think we can all agree that there are many, many reasons why people do not check bags that has nothing to do with selfishness or cheapness.  Perhaps if bags didn&#039;t get lost, items were not stolen from bags, bags were not ripped or destroyed, we didn&#039;t have to wait 45 minutes at baggage claim and the airlines actually cared about our things, people would be more likely to check.  </p>
<p>I do agree with all posters that it would be easier if the airline enforced the limits on bag size and number of bags.</p>
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		<title>By: EJE</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay;   I could not agree more. I have been a flight attendant for more than 25 yrs., and am now in the process of recovering from a spinal fusion. Years of wear and tear can take it&#039;s toll.  
However, when someone get&#039;s on at the last minute and starts yanking bags out of the bin, that&#039;s where I draw the line. Bin space is first come first served. No bin space is reserved for a certain area.  I try very hard to keep the bags situation under control as eveyone is boarding; ie turning bags to make more room and keeping bins open that DO have room. But full is full and if you get on last and there&#039;s no room, then you get to check your bag, simple as that. There is no additional charge for gate checking. If there is a confrontation after that, then somebody gets to spend a little more time in the airport to contemplate their dilema. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay;   I could not agree more. I have been a flight attendant for more than 25 yrs., and am now in the process of recovering from a spinal fusion. Years of wear and tear can take it&#039;s toll. </p>
<p>However, when someone get&#039;s on at the last minute and starts yanking bags out of the bin, that&#039;s where I draw the line. Bin space is first come first served. No bin space is reserved for a certain area.  I try very hard to keep the bags situation under control as eveyone is boarding; ie turning bags to make more room and keeping bins open that DO have room. But full is full and if you get on last and there&#039;s no room, then you get to check your bag, simple as that. There is no additional charge for gate checking. If there is a confrontation after that, then somebody gets to spend a little more time in the airport to contemplate their dilema.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Couch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Couch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I travel internationally and have a carry-on, my computer, and a CPAP.  To the best of my knowledge, CPAPs go on as &quot;free&quot; carry-ons.  As medical equipment, they do NOT count against your carry-on allowances.  I know it can be a little more hassle (with an extra bag), but I always carry my CPAP in the case that it came with, which is quite small.  That way when on a small commuter plane, I carry my CPAP and my computer on and my carry-on gets a pink tag. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I travel internationally and have a carry-on, my computer, and a CPAP.  To the best of my knowledge, CPAPs go on as &quot;free&quot; carry-ons.  As medical equipment, they do NOT count against your carry-on allowances.  I know it can be a little more hassle (with an extra bag), but I always carry my CPAP in the case that it came with, which is quite small.  That way when on a small commuter plane, I carry my CPAP and my computer on and my carry-on gets a pink tag.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is obviously a touchy subject for everyone, and everyone seems to have an opinion. As a flight attendant, overall what I see is a lack of real consideration for each other as human beings, lack of ability to conserve space and not fill up an entire bin (as they usually extend several feet ahead of and behind your row) and lack of flexibility in stowing bags.  I also have gotten to the point where I refuse to be a referee overseeing the luggage space disputes. As for the poster that said it was so nice for one flight attendant to say &quot;let me find a space for you&quot;--I am required to stand in a specific area of the aircraft for security reasons which would require the response &quot;there is additional space in another section of the aircraft&quot;and after 10 years of flying I refuse to lift one more overstuffed bag that weighs as much as a small Toyota into the overhead for anyone.  A person&#039;s body and back can take just so much abuse. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is obviously a touchy subject for everyone, and everyone seems to have an opinion. As a flight attendant, overall what I see is a lack of real consideration for each other as human beings, lack of ability to conserve space and not fill up an entire bin (as they usually extend several feet ahead of and behind your row) and lack of flexibility in stowing bags.  I also have gotten to the point where I refuse to be a referee overseeing the luggage space disputes. As for the poster that said it was so nice for one flight attendant to say &quot;let me find a space for you&quot;&#8211;I am required to stand in a specific area of the aircraft for security reasons which would require the response &quot;there is additional space in another section of the aircraft&quot;and after 10 years of flying I refuse to lift one more overstuffed bag that weighs as much as a small Toyota into the overhead for anyone.  A person&#039;s body and back can take just so much abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TSA is actually enforcing the bag size and limit now.  When I flew out of Boston in Dec. they were checking at security.  It was the same out of Chicago. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TSA is actually enforcing the bag size and limit now.  When I flew out of Boston in Dec. they were checking at security.  It was the same out of Chicago.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, 
 
I would think that an exception should be made for those with medical equipment, etc...  It is quite understandable that you would have extra to carry on. 
 
Likewise,   I understand your concern of checking anything of value.   When I travel, if at all possible, I do not take anything valuable with me....even clothes.  And, when I absolutely have to take valuables...(brand suit for an important meeting,  or camera for vacation...I will wear the suit, or carry it on with my laptop....but, make sure that I minimize all other carry on items...for the convenience of others...and, for myself. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I would think that an exception should be made for those with medical equipment, etc&#8230;  It is quite understandable that you would have extra to carry on.</p>
<p>Likewise,   I understand your concern of checking anything of value.   When I travel, if at all possible, I do not take anything valuable with me&#8230;.even clothes.  And, when I absolutely have to take valuables&#8230;(brand suit for an important meeting,  or camera for vacation&#8230;I will wear the suit, or carry it on with my laptop&#8230;.but, make sure that I minimize all other carry on items&#8230;for the convenience of others&#8230;and, for myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it.  I agree wholeheartedly.  Why should we have to wait for those less considerate. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it.  I agree wholeheartedly.  Why should we have to wait for those less considerate.</p>
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		<title>By: HUNGRY DINGO</title>
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		<dc:creator>HUNGRY DINGO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had the experience on Continental many times where the passengers in the back just toss their stuff in the first empty overhead bin they find. And the F/A&#039;s attitudes differ dramatically. I usually sit in the exit row on the 757&#039;s or first row on the 737&#039;s flying LA to Newark and vice-versa. When my overhead space was already full, one F/A said, &quot;Here, let me find some room up front&quot; and on another flight one F/A said, &quot;Well, you&#039;ll have to just go down the row until you find some open space&quot;. I wanted to ask if the open space between her ears was available.  It really pisses me off since there isn&#039;t any under-seat stowage for the first exit row on 757&#039;s or first rows in coach on the 737&#039;s.  That overhead space should be saved for those seats. Period. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve had the experience on Continental many times where the passengers in the back just toss their stuff in the first empty overhead bin they find. And the F/A&#039;s attitudes differ dramatically. I usually sit in the exit row on the 757&#039;s or first row on the 737&#039;s flying LA to Newark and vice-versa. When my overhead space was already full, one F/A said, &quot;Here, let me find some room up front&quot; and on another flight one F/A said, &quot;Well, you&#039;ll have to just go down the row until you find some open space&quot;. I wanted to ask if the open space between her ears was available.  It really pisses me off since there isn&#039;t any under-seat stowage for the first exit row on 757&#039;s or first rows in coach on the 737&#039;s.  That overhead space should be saved for those seats. Period.</p>
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