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		<title>By: Kirsten</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/12/first-class-for-employees/#comment-31160</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You paid for an economy seat, and you got an economy seat. I can&#039;t see a problem.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You paid for an economy seat, and you got an economy seat. I can&#039;t see a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: ps</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/12/first-class-for-employees/#comment-7001</link>
		<dc:creator>ps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david... you forgot to mention Singapore&#039;s economy service puts most US carriers business and first class cabins to shame. I agree with your points, just wanted to point out that SA is nirvana. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>david&#8230; you forgot to mention Singapore&#039;s economy service puts most US carriers business and first class cabins to shame. I agree with your points, just wanted to point out that SA is nirvana.</p>
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		<title>By: Dina</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/12/first-class-for-employees/#comment-7000</link>
		<dc:creator>Dina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t buy this for a second. I&#039;ve flown standby with my partner&#039;s parents (both former United employees) and yeah, fare-paying customers get priority over employees, even with my mother-in-law&#039;s crazy seniority. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t buy this for a second. I&#039;ve flown standby with my partner&#039;s parents (both former United employees) and yeah, fare-paying customers get priority over employees, even with my mother-in-law&#039;s crazy seniority.</p>
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		<title>By: Kad</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/12/first-class-for-employees/#comment-6839</link>
		<dc:creator>Kad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My fiance flies standby, and even when there are other vacant seats, somewhere suspiciously close to the lavatory wall.  And for her right to fly, she still has to follow the Continental Dress Code. 
 
Not every airline employee enjoys 1st Class rights.  It seems like United may have a culture of scratching each other&#039;s backs and arbitrarily awarding 1st class.  Who is going to say NO, when anyone who is an employee can basically call you abusive or (insert favorite disruption) and have you forcibly deplaned, possibly spending a night in jail. 
 
MOST airline employees I have met are professional, but in the face of the few who take rights that don&#039;t belong to them (even though, with training for safety, the function of most FA&#039;s is still to sell booze and duty-free trinkets) they will demure and say nothing.  A $20,000 a year job is still a job. 
 
If this is really a problem at United (on whose planes I have never flown) then contact them.  And keep it up.  Call around.  There are still other airlines out there.  Connections might be a pain, but they do exist. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My fiance flies standby, and even when there are other vacant seats, somewhere suspiciously close to the lavatory wall.  And for her right to fly, she still has to follow the Continental Dress Code.</p>
<p>Not every airline employee enjoys 1st Class rights.  It seems like United may have a culture of scratching each other&#039;s backs and arbitrarily awarding 1st class.  Who is going to say NO, when anyone who is an employee can basically call you abusive or (insert favorite disruption) and have you forcibly deplaned, possibly spending a night in jail.</p>
<p>MOST airline employees I have met are professional, but in the face of the few who take rights that don&#039;t belong to them (even though, with training for safety, the function of most FA&#039;s is still to sell booze and duty-free trinkets) they will demure and say nothing.  A $20,000 a year job is still a job.</p>
<p>If this is really a problem at United (on whose planes I have never flown) then contact them.  And keep it up.  Call around.  There are still other airlines out there.  Connections might be a pain, but they do exist.</p>
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		<title>By: FF</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/12/first-class-for-employees/#comment-6746</link>
		<dc:creator>FF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the feeling looking at all the comments that 2 things are mixed: 
 
- the employee that as a perk gets to fly for free (on their time of) with as far as I know some rules 
   *standby 
   *any available seat, and no FC if there are others that are intitled to an upgrade 
   *not in uniform (might be different for different airlines, but I think not as the airline does not want to be held acountable if you misbehave on your time of) 
- the employee that has to be moved from one airport to another 
  * NOT standby (you do want your crew to be on time right?) 
  * the seats as put down in their contract (and honestly I would prefer my pilots rested/alert and my FA rested/cheerful and not sore/tired from flying economy) 
  * in uniform, after all they are working 
 
For the frequent travelers here that feel that they have more rights to the upgrade than the crew going to their next flight because they spend half their life traveling: The crew probably spends more time on a plane than you do, the pilots responsible for your safety and the FA on their feet, dealing with all the poeple that we can read about here. 
 
I apologize for any misspelings, I am not a native speaker </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the feeling looking at all the comments that 2 things are mixed:</p>
<p>- the employee that as a perk gets to fly for free (on their time of) with as far as I know some rules</p>
<p>   *standby</p>
<p>   *any available seat, and no FC if there are others that are intitled to an upgrade</p>
<p>   *not in uniform (might be different for different airlines, but I think not as the airline does not want to be held acountable if you misbehave on your time of)</p>
<p>- the employee that has to be moved from one airport to another</p>
<p>  * NOT standby (you do want your crew to be on time right?)</p>
<p>  * the seats as put down in their contract (and honestly I would prefer my pilots rested/alert and my FA rested/cheerful and not sore/tired from flying economy)</p>
<p>  * in uniform, after all they are working</p>
<p>For the frequent travelers here that feel that they have more rights to the upgrade than the crew going to their next flight because they spend half their life traveling: The crew probably spends more time on a plane than you do, the pilots responsible for your safety and the FA on their feet, dealing with all the poeple that we can read about here.</p>
<p>I apologize for any misspelings, I am not a native speaker</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/12/first-class-for-employees/#comment-6741</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slim but not zero, so it still means that these FA&#039;s could have paid, </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slim but not zero, so it still means that these FA&#039;s could have paid,</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/12/first-class-for-employees/#comment-6740</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah so if you travel a lot and you&#039;ve only met a &#039;few&#039; FAs (that have paid for their upgrades) then you know the likelihood of these employees having paid for those upgrades are slim! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah so if you travel a lot and you&#039;ve only met a &#039;few&#039; FAs (that have paid for their upgrades) then you know the likelihood of these employees having paid for those upgrades are slim!</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/12/first-class-for-employees/#comment-6739</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha funny coz i know a few FA&#039;s have paid for their upgrades, or have used points/miles........you meet a few FA&#039;s when you travel alot </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha funny coz i know a few FA&#039;s have paid for their upgrades, or have used points/miles&#8230;&#8230;..you meet a few FA&#039;s when you travel alot</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/12/first-class-for-employees/#comment-6737</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol you honestly think that there is a CHANCE they paid for upgrades??? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol you honestly think that there is a CHANCE they paid for upgrades???</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/12/first-class-for-employees/#comment-6735</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i also forgot to say.......how do we know that these FA&#039;s weren&#039;t just sitting down as people boarded?     i have witnessed this several times on US based airlines, the professionalism isnt nearly on the level as other airlines </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i also forgot to say&#8230;&#8230;.how do we know that these FA&#039;s weren&#039;t just sitting down as people boarded?     i have witnessed this several times on US based airlines, the professionalism isnt nearly on the level as other airlines</p>
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