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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/07/a-horrible-trip/#comment-3942</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a mom of 3. You should not have special treatment because you have kids with you. Why did you not have enough formula and diapers? Were you not aware of possible delays? I have been stranded for days when traveling. You have to be prepared. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a mom of 3. You should not have special treatment because you have kids with you. Why did you not have enough formula and diapers? Were you not aware of possible delays? I have been stranded for days when traveling. You have to be prepared.</p>
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		<title>By: PTH</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/07/a-horrible-trip/#comment-3917</link>
		<dc:creator>PTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like no one else ever had serious travel problems lady? Like hundreds of people who have lives, jobs and loved ones were also not subject to the same delays and inconvenience you were? Like somehow YOU deserve special treatment because you were foolish enough to travel unprepared for WINTER delays? 
 
If you do have small kids, you learn to be prepared. If you live in Ottawa and don&#039;t know it&#039;s winter--get a clue from the snow around you. If you don&#039;t know delays occur, try reading the internet or watching the news once in a while. If you don&#039;t come prepared for everything that happens with small children, put them up for adoption and go live under a rock. 
 
Sounds like she didn&#039;t want to sleep in the bed she made. Too bad. Just because you have kids does not put you ahead of everyone else when it comes to an airline. Unless you have elite status with their frequent flyer program, you are low on the priority list. Suck it up, like the hundreds of other people who probably had personal situations that were far worse that day. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like no one else ever had serious travel problems lady? Like hundreds of people who have lives, jobs and loved ones were also not subject to the same delays and inconvenience you were? Like somehow YOU deserve special treatment because you were foolish enough to travel unprepared for WINTER delays?</p>
<p>If you do have small kids, you learn to be prepared. If you live in Ottawa and don&#039;t know it&#039;s winter&#8211;get a clue from the snow around you. If you don&#039;t know delays occur, try reading the internet or watching the news once in a while. If you don&#039;t come prepared for everything that happens with small children, put them up for adoption and go live under a rock.</p>
<p>Sounds like she didn&#039;t want to sleep in the bed she made. Too bad. Just because you have kids does not put you ahead of everyone else when it comes to an airline. Unless you have elite status with their frequent flyer program, you are low on the priority list. Suck it up, like the hundreds of other people who probably had personal situations that were far worse that day.</p>
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		<title>By: SAW</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/07/a-horrible-trip/#comment-3689</link>
		<dc:creator>SAW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ DSD... Yeah - it absolutely does work for the other airlines. The clubs used to be only available through expensive yearly memberships - but now they ALL sell day passes, and in an extreme delay or cancellation situation, worth every dime. 
 
@GOTA... Yeah, I agree the service sucked for her, and it was unfortunate what she had to go through. HOWEVER better planning on her part would have made things a lot better. The situation WAS not her fault. How it ended up is a result of her not being properly prepared, and making poor choices. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ DSD&#8230; Yeah &#8211; it absolutely does work for the other airlines. The clubs used to be only available through expensive yearly memberships &#8211; but now they ALL sell day passes, and in an extreme delay or cancellation situation, worth every dime.</p>
<p>@GOTA&#8230; Yeah, I agree the service sucked for her, and it was unfortunate what she had to go through. HOWEVER better planning on her part would have made things a lot better. The situation WAS not her fault. How it ended up is a result of her not being properly prepared, and making poor choices.</p>
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		<title>By: GottaLoveIt</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/07/a-horrible-trip/#comment-3688</link>
		<dc:creator>GottaLoveIt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The airlines SHOULD treat people like her better - make some special concessions for people in especially tough situations - but they don&#039;t, and whining or complaining to gate agents and re-booking agents never helps, it just makes life more difficult. 
 
Best course of action is to play it smart, and make the best decisions you can in the situation you&#039;re put in. This lady, clearly, didn&#039;t.&quot; 
 
So essentially you agree that the service she received and the situation she went through were both terrible and way worse than what should be acceptable, but that&#039;s just the way it is so it&#039;s her fault anyway? 
 
That&#039;s not the way responsibility works. The airline is clearly in the wrong here. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The airlines SHOULD treat people like her better &#8211; make some special concessions for people in especially tough situations &#8211; but they don&#039;t, and whining or complaining to gate agents and re-booking agents never helps, it just makes life more difficult.</p>
<p>Best course of action is to play it smart, and make the best decisions you can in the situation you&#039;re put in. This lady, clearly, didn&#039;t.&quot;</p>
<p>So essentially you agree that the service she received and the situation she went through were both terrible and way worse than what should be acceptable, but that&#039;s just the way it is so it&#039;s her fault anyway?</p>
<p>That&#039;s not the way responsibility works. The airline is clearly in the wrong here.</p>
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		<title>By: DSD</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/07/a-horrible-trip/#comment-3687</link>
		<dc:creator>DSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why people continue to book flights through Chicago is beyond me. The airline industry could drastically improve its on time arrival (and departure for that matter) just by no longer using Chicago as their main hubs. Not only does weather foul things up like clock-work, the shear volume of traffic into and out of Chicago regularly screws things up on its own. Personally I would try and avoid flying into Chicago even if it was my final destination. 
IMO the writers biggest mistake was trying to fly through Chicago with two small children and not allowing extra time because of the kids. As a parent who fly&#039;s with and without my son, I can tell you from experience that traveling with children will slow you down. Her second mistake was not being prepared for the smelly stuff to hit the fan. She probably wouldn&#039;t have been nearly as frazzled if she had taken twice formula that she expected to need, an extra change of cloths for everybody, and planned a several hour lay over in Chicago for just this reason. This lead her to her nervous breakdown. She didn&#039;t have the supplies she needed for her kids and that lead her to panic and that just snowballed. If she had been Boy Scout prepared and just accepted that her travel plans were screwed, it wouldn&#039;t have been as bad as it turned out. Also the minute it looked like her plans were hosed she should have booked a room in Chicago so it was there, if needed, at a reasonable price. 
 
Walk - don&#039;t run - to the nearest UNITED RED CARPET CLUB. Pay them the daily visit fee ($60 or so). Have the agents at the club fix things for you. Agents working in the club have a cushy job - they get chairs, and don&#039;t have to work terribly hard. That means, they&#039;re the ones who have been around a long time and have EARNED their way into the club. They can make things happen that other agents can&#039;t or won&#039;t. I know this, I&#039;ve benefited from it on a multitude of occasions. 
 
Going to file that little Gem away for future use. I&#039;m betting it works with all of the major airlines. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why people continue to book flights through Chicago is beyond me. The airline industry could drastically improve its on time arrival (and departure for that matter) just by no longer using Chicago as their main hubs. Not only does weather foul things up like clock-work, the shear volume of traffic into and out of Chicago regularly screws things up on its own. Personally I would try and avoid flying into Chicago even if it was my final destination.</p>
<p>IMO the writers biggest mistake was trying to fly through Chicago with two small children and not allowing extra time because of the kids. As a parent who fly&#039;s with and without my son, I can tell you from experience that traveling with children will slow you down. Her second mistake was not being prepared for the smelly stuff to hit the fan. She probably wouldn&#039;t have been nearly as frazzled if she had taken twice formula that she expected to need, an extra change of cloths for everybody, and planned a several hour lay over in Chicago for just this reason. This lead her to her nervous breakdown. She didn&#039;t have the supplies she needed for her kids and that lead her to panic and that just snowballed. If she had been Boy Scout prepared and just accepted that her travel plans were screwed, it wouldn&#039;t have been as bad as it turned out. Also the minute it looked like her plans were hosed she should have booked a room in Chicago so it was there, if needed, at a reasonable price.</p>
<p>Walk &#8211; don&#039;t run &#8211; to the nearest UNITED RED CARPET CLUB. Pay them the daily visit fee ($60 or so). Have the agents at the club fix things for you. Agents working in the club have a cushy job &#8211; they get chairs, and don&#039;t have to work terribly hard. That means, they&#039;re the ones who have been around a long time and have EARNED their way into the club. They can make things happen that other agents can&#039;t or won&#039;t. I know this, I&#039;ve benefited from it on a multitude of occasions.</p>
<p>Going to file that little Gem away for future use. I&#039;m betting it works with all of the major airlines.</p>
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		<title>By: SAW</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/07/a-horrible-trip/#comment-3686</link>
		<dc:creator>SAW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And some of us hard-working frequent travelers DO have time to read and respond to these forums - we don&#039;t all work the same hours, and we often spent our down time sitting in hotels with our thumbs up our.... you know 
 
Unfortunately, if you fly United, you&#039;re inevitably going to get forced through ORD - no way around it. Just make sure you&#039;re ready for grief and pack appropriately in your carry-on. 
 
ORD, by the way, won hands-down the &quot;worst airport in America&quot; from Zaggat. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And some of us hard-working frequent travelers DO have time to read and respond to these forums &#8211; we don&#039;t all work the same hours, and we often spent our down time sitting in hotels with our thumbs up our&#8230;. you know</p>
<p>Unfortunately, if you fly United, you&#039;re inevitably going to get forced through ORD &#8211; no way around it. Just make sure you&#039;re ready for grief and pack appropriately in your carry-on.</p>
<p>ORD, by the way, won hands-down the &quot;worst airport in America&quot; from Zaggat.</p>
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		<title>By: S.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/07/a-horrible-trip/#comment-3685</link>
		<dc:creator>S.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This flight sucked for the writer but I have to agree that having a couple kids in tow does not make you more special then the other people in line waiting to get on a plane. How does the writer or the previous commenter iamawomanhearmeroar know that people in that line weren&#039;t trying to get home to see dying family members, go to a funeral, attend a business meeting that their job depended on... unless you ask everyone in that line permission then you have no business just assuming your situation is worse because you have kids...and yes I&#039;m a man with no kids by my own choice, that is forced to travel for work. If the poster asked me nicely and I wasn&#039;t in a huge hurry to get where I was going I&#039;d let her pass me, but if she rudely cut I&#039;d call her out in a heartbeat and tell her to get in the back of the line kids or no. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This flight sucked for the writer but I have to agree that having a couple kids in tow does not make you more special then the other people in line waiting to get on a plane. How does the writer or the previous commenter iamawomanhearmeroar know that people in that line weren&#039;t trying to get home to see dying family members, go to a funeral, attend a business meeting that their job depended on&#8230; unless you ask everyone in that line permission then you have no business just assuming your situation is worse because you have kids&#8230;and yes I&#039;m a man with no kids by my own choice, that is forced to travel for work. If the poster asked me nicely and I wasn&#039;t in a huge hurry to get where I was going I&#039;d let her pass me, but if she rudely cut I&#039;d call her out in a heartbeat and tell her to get in the back of the line kids or no.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I am so bummed about what I&#039;ve read about ORD - we have to change planes there in October on our way to Maui. I sure wish I knew it was a bad airport when I booked the flight. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I am so bummed about what I&#039;ve read about ORD &#8211; we have to change planes there in October on our way to Maui. I sure wish I knew it was a bad airport when I booked the flight.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.flightsfromhell.com/2009/07/a-horrible-trip/#comment-3683</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry about my remarks earlier, had a really long flight and i was very tired...8year old kicking the back of my chair the whole time and when i asked the father if he could ask his son to stop his mother came in and barked my son can do whatever he likes you just have to deal with it, the son decided to throw his food and hit the passenger in front who thought it was me....long day 
 
i know i was out of line and it was uncalled for but i had one long day and needed to vent here </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry about my remarks earlier, had a really long flight and i was very tired&#8230;8year old kicking the back of my chair the whole time and when i asked the father if he could ask his son to stop his mother came in and barked my son can do whatever he likes you just have to deal with it, the son decided to throw his food and hit the passenger in front who thought it was me&#8230;.long day</p>
<p>i know i was out of line and it was uncalled for but i had one long day and needed to vent here</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the thing: a lot of people, when denied food and rest, will see their stress level escalate over things that normally wouldn&#039;t bother them. Add two small kids, a lot of weight (kids and luggage), and a feeling of hopelessness (partly because the situation is completely out of your control) and we get desperation and highly irrational behavior. Especially with kids that age and a relatively new mom - patience and the ability to blow things off sometimes come with time and experience. My kids are 5 and 7, and within the past few years I&#039;ve noticed that I&#039;ve become a calmer mother. I&#039;ve had a small taste (very small) of what this poor woman went through. All I had to do was walk a very long way through a terminal to get to baggage claim with two kids (they were 2 and 4 at the time) and I was already exhausted. I know, that&#039;s not a big deal, but it sure was hard at the time! :o) 
Give the lady a break. I agree that this truly was a flight from hell. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s the thing: a lot of people, when denied food and rest, will see their stress level escalate over things that normally wouldn&#039;t bother them. Add two small kids, a lot of weight (kids and luggage), and a feeling of hopelessness (partly because the situation is completely out of your control) and we get desperation and highly irrational behavior. Especially with kids that age and a relatively new mom &#8211; patience and the ability to blow things off sometimes come with time and experience. My kids are 5 and 7, and within the past few years I&#039;ve noticed that I&#039;ve become a calmer mother. I&#039;ve had a small taste (very small) of what this poor woman went through. All I had to do was walk a very long way through a terminal to get to baggage claim with two kids (they were 2 and 4 at the time) and I was already exhausted. I know, that&#039;s not a big deal, but it sure was hard at the time! <img src='http://www.flightsfromhell.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>Give the lady a break. I agree that this truly was a flight from hell.</p>
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